It was Dave who initiated me into rough-stuff some years ago and not even in a cloudburst on Walden Bock have I heard him complain, but on this epic day he was unprintably expressive on rough-stuff and bicycles in general. Meanwhile Ian had lost his power of speech as well as a complete 11b loaf of bread! At approximately 7.30 we found the track descending and after a while reached the footbridge over the burn where we made haste to turn our backs on the SYHA finger-post